Delete TT 10k WR from the IUF WR guidelines (Closed for comments)
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It's been at least since 2011 that a time-trial (TT) 10k record has been in the WR guidelines (I don't know if it was in previous guidelines), but no one has ever attempted it.
Today, I think that maintaining this record makes no sense, especially as there is already a 10k in race WR.
In fact, I'm amazed that this WR was left untouched, since, for example, the 100k and 100 miles WR were set on the same attempt. Samuel Wakeling could also have claimed the 10k record, couldn't he?
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Without your proposal to change the unlimited 10km to a time trial format, deleting the 10km time trial would indeed make sense. After all, no-one seems interested in it.
But if your proposal to introduce an unlimited 10km time trial format (replacing the unlimited 10 km race format) would be accepted, then this vacant record would become important. So I don't understand why you propose both introducing a 10k TT and deleting the corresponding WR.
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I may be wrong, but I'm not very optimistic that my TT 10k proposal will be adopted.
And I wanted to be clear that it's not because this record is vacant that I'm proposing to change the format of the unlimited 10k.
Do you know why this WR is vacant? Why weren't the first 10k of the men's and women's 100k WR used as a basis?
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>Do you know why this WR is vacant? Why weren't the first 10k of the men's and women's 100k WR used as a basis?
I don't know. Maybe they didn't think of setting up a timing station at the 10k mark.
I do know that the 10k TT record was once claimed as part of a one-hour TT record attempt. But it seemed to be an afterthought. Contrary to the one-hour attempt, the 10k attempt was not announced beforehand, and crucially, the course was not surveyed to determine where the 10k mark was. The claimant wanted to calculate the time at the 10k mark afterwards, in a similar way as the distance is calculated for the one-hour record (and you know how this works :-). This was not accepted by the WR Committee at the time, with the argument that a 10k record should be recorded at the actual 10k mark.
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In consideration of the fact that we want to achieve the closest possible connection between the Rulebook and the world record disciplines, I would suggest that basic rules for time trials are established in the Rulebook and that corresponding times/distances are named there, in which world records are then consequently listed.
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Short addition: I would close the thread unless there are any objections, so that we have a better overview of which topics really need to be discussed and decided in the World Record Committee.
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I completely agree with the fact that distances/times are defined in the Rulebook and that it strengthens the links with the Rulebook and the WR guidelines. A great idea!